Hello and welcome this is Bastian, this is an AntiHate video, response to XfinksX, known as Tom Dark, Manus etc. and...so, we start:
in this video XfinksX, you want to point out a few things about Desteni, which you claim to have reasearched for about several months.
- let's take on this statement first.
If you know anything about Desteni and the Desteni Material after several months, then it is that you actually are not able to comprehend all of the Desteni-material in several months. I mean if you want to have time for anything else in your life wich I hope you have. So if you obviously haven't completed your research yet, then why are you making HateVlogs in wich you try to slander Desteni people and to accuse the group of numerable things? My first question to you.
- Next you are saying that in your Vlog you are going to 'throw out some thoughts about the group', which in fact has nothing at all to do with the meaning of a serious research, does it?
- Your following statement is, that the group at first looks 'almost benevolent'. Here you show your own first reaction to the group I guess. In my case, my first encounter with Desteni was not of that kind, I had some rather strifled first contact with them. But everybody is able to read and hear about that in my Vlogs related to the Group and my first encounter, as I am sharing everything in my process openly, like we all share ourselves in self honesty, which means you won't have anything to hide if you don't hide from yourself. And it is free. You can read and watch hundreds of texts and vlogs of different perspectives about that.
- Then you claim that this benevolence, which is merely either a personal perception of yours - or just an untenable assumption, was (I quote:) 'just to get you in' In none of the following you even give a hint on where exactly that would be. Wherein should people be lead by benevolence? If it even exists that way.
I mean, I can understand that you are a sceptic, suspicious, especially when one follows your story in your Vlogs and writings, but maybe we will have the chance to expose more of these hate motivators of yours later on. But if one looks at our world, that is exactly how things work in our economy, or society, our occupational life, carreers, advertising. Things, people, groups appear benevolent and pleasant until you sign the contract, and then they turn away from you, isn't it? Because they got what they always wanted: Their Profit. That is what our world, our money system is all about and that is why we stand for a change, namely the Equal Money System, which you will later designate as a 'key word' that we were using in order to lure people into our group... But one after another:
- You say you haven't joined the group, so you were not an 'ex-member'. Though you claim to have done research and found out things because you 'read' the material which is according to your statements highly questionable, but anyway this shows very clearly, that the desteni material is and has always been absolutely free and open to read for anyone, not only that, you are able and being asked to participate actively for free, you will have all the support of the group for free, if you are serious about your self application, what means if you don't try just to take your own benefit, if you are not self honest and try to enrich yourself with 'information' that you may use to inflate your ego - wich brings me to the next point of your statements:
- You assume that all your information was from reading the material and talking to members, so actually you have always been trying to get 'information' and exactly that kind of information that suits your own presumptions and conditionings, in other words that legitimates your intention to harm a group just because you fear their applications, which expose all kinds of feigned 'goodness', 'morality' and other 'good intended' stuff that covers mundane self interest which is a threat for all life, because it deliberately manipulates, for example by claiming a position of righteousness which is based on notions, assumptions, slogans (like 'inner circle' f.e., very nice one!) and ignorance, and never interested in what is best for all, because that can only be self honest application and acceptance of unveiled truth of existance as it is.
- Anyhow, you continue to talk about Ähow they draw you in' and 'operate', which is again very interesting, regarding the fact that you have never been 'in', maybe because there is no such a place after all.
- Next thing is, you again come with personal opinion and reaction towards how people look, so you say that 'those people might look a little weird' or 'have strange ideas' while you don't give any example of those 'ideas' that you think are so strange or how it comes that you find people from Desteni look 'a little weird'.
So no information, no argumentation at all in that next and following phrases. What I see here is just your very own personal perception and experience of how you came to visit the Desteni Website, which is at this stage of no value at all for anyone, because you are obviously not sharing it in self-honesty. If you would, this could actually be a great support Vlog for people realising how easily one gets trapped by the cunning ways of the ego.
- So there we are, at the Desteni Website you say its going to get worse, because you start to get into 'their thought patterns' and start practicing the 'Desteni Process' which is actually called the 'Desteni 'I' Process' for an obvious reason, then you will start hearing things like 'Self-Forgiveness' and 'Self-Honesty' and 'Self-Responsibility' and you claim with a serious look, this 'jargon' was meant to 'reprogram' you. Actually, it is. Because that is obviously what is missing in this world, 'SELF RESPONSIBILITY', and 'SELF HONESTY' and if you would have done research properly, you would actually know what it means and not try to simply defame people that have met a decision to stand equal and one with life, that gare to stop hiding making secret plans and agendas to preemt each others, and share themselves in the open as a living example that change is possible, that we actually are able to end all abuse and suffering in the world if we face ourselves and forgive ourselves in self honesty. There is more than enough living proof by now and they all are sharing their processes equally for free. So again you try to decieve because you connect the 'Desteni I Process' to these things, which means you try to give the impression Desteni would have secret knowledge or programs which it shares only with those that 'buy in'. That is obviously deception, not least because you said already that you HAVEN'T been 'in'.
- The next point is fascinating: You say that you 'think' or 'it seems' that 'once they have you in' 'it seems very hard for you to get out' because you can participate in everything from home. I really don't understand that logic, I mean wouldn't it be much harder to 'get out' of a group that wants to hold you back when you are actually there, in person, maybe in a camp or something, rather than from home where you simply turn off your pc - and done? Anyhow my question would be where you get this impression from? Which experience are you referring to as you never have been 'in' (again) It seems that this is all made up by you because you personally fear something about Desteni, it is just fantasy of yours, not a single example, proof or evidence.
My suggestion is to investigate your fear, its root, how it rises, what causes it, where is the trigger point -in self honesty. And what do you mean by 'system of isolation'? Isolated from what? Society? Outside? Culture? And how does it operate, this self isolation?
Again, unfortunately, you have only assumptions and opinions to share that you havent cleared for yourself yet.
- You call self-honesty, self-forgiveness as mantras and 'mumbo-jumbo', this is obviously just your opinion with no relevance for people that are really interested or have already actually applied Self Forgiveness, Self Honesty and Self Responsibility. While you obviously just don't understand what it is about, because it has nothing to do with mantras, and therefore you have not done any research, or you are deliberatly spreading false information, which would mean that you lie . what brings me to the NEXT point:
- The reason why you are doing this is as you say that you don't like it, when people tell lies, and that Desteni was telling some BIG lies.
While I have above presented some facts about possible attempts of you lying or even deliberately spreading false information, I am still missing ANY example or evidence of these LIES that Desteni is telling according to your accusations. You might probably know that such behaviour is likely to be indictable, but what is more important is, that it is dishonest to yourself and others.
- Then again you refer to some terms that you was reading during your 'research' as 'key words' or 'tag words' and you give Equal Money as an example. As I mentioned previously, the Equal Money System is a serious attempt of self honest and committed people to develop a practical solution for all beings, a world solution to end all abuse and exploitation through our current money system, so that all can live a dignified life on earth. Only ignorance and a lack of reading (f.e. on http://equalmoney.org) can lead to such an assumption.
What are you afraid of, when a group of people is workin on solutions for problems and circumstances in our world that are obviously unacceptable? What makes you think, that these 'topics' would be used in order to lure people in to some 'group-trap'? No argument, no evidence, not even a try to go into the meaning of these terms, and btw far away from presenting ANY sort of solution by yourself. On the contrary, you show that you yourself don't even take topics like animal abuse, solidarity, equal justice etc. seriously.
- Nothing to argue with your next statement, that 'Desteni gives you a direction', that is perfectly right.
- And if you really look into what they are talking about, what they are saying, ... Then what?! You don't finish this accusation, you don't clarify your suspicion here. You open up a point, that you are obviously not able to finish, because you would have to end up with: "...you see that they are really interested in practical solutions that are best for ALL!" Instead you again throw out partial thoughts and opinions like 'I think you will find...' 'don't just read their material, go and look what OTHER people are saying as well', and you know exactly where people should look, so actually YOU are trying to manipulate extensively here in this phrase. This is absolutely against anything what Desteninstands for, because here ou will be encouraged to read and experience ALL kinds of stuff, in order to find out for yourself where you are being decieved and where people are self honest and interested in truth and life.
- The next - but not last - assumption is that people that are being 'sucked in' to Desteni will become 'money generators'. I don't know if you refer to the course fees or anything, but actually you again throw out your judging opinion without any given example. Actually with the Desteni I Process it is YOU yourself who can generate an income for yourself, that is true.
- Desteni does not want to take over the world. Desteni engages the process of people to take their lifes back, in self honesty and self responsibility direct themselves to create a world that is free from merely imaginations and mind concepts as living strategies, a world where people face the obvious consequences of their actions in self honesty, stand as one and equal with all life and transform our messed up existance to create a world that is worth living in for EVERYONE. Hence we support the Equal Money System, do your research.
- And yes, there IS a Bernard Poolman. You say as if it was a bad thing, that people say 'thanks' or show appreciation to what he is saying. Face the fear you have here, don't mix it up with reality or even assume that everybody else experiences the same fear. Some fear spiders, some not. But there is always a reason. If you wanna be free from that fear, just investigate Self. Maybe it is not even fear but jealousy, enviousness, because people don't react that way when YOU are stating something. Whatever. Accusations are irrelevant. It is always about yourSelf.
Maybe we will have the chance to expose and tackle some of these 'motivators' later on.
Thank you, XfinksX, Tom Dark, ...